Intrepid internet scourer BatGirl567 has provided links to two articles discussing the possibilities of the third Batman movie.
Cinema Blend believe that The Joker was originally written into the first draft of a Batman 3 story and that all references have since been removed. I would interpret this as nothing more than rumor with no credible source — mainly because their ‘scooper’ tells them that Two-Face will feature prominently in the next film, “covering his origins” — the general consensus is that this will not happen. They continue to suggest that the graphic novels The Long Halloween and Dark Victory will also be referenced.
With Two Face and the Joker gone, we need some new Villains… MSNBC have some suggestions, although there are also some stark ommissions (Harley Quinn and Bane both being repeated suggestions in our ongoing discussions). I have paraphrased, added pictures and provided appropriate links.
Catwoman and Talia al Ghul
[…] Jewel thief Selina Kyle [Catwoman] is a habitual criminal, but she does adhere to a moral code of her own, even if it often puts her at odds with Batman.
[…] Talia al Ghul is perhaps even more complicated; she’s the daughter of R’as al Ghul, sometimes aiding her father’s plans for world domination, and sometimes siding with her lover. Although Batman has repeatedly foiled the illegal schemes of both father and daughter, R’as approves of Batman’s romance with Talia and would like to see them married; in some stories, Talia and Bruce Wayne even have a son.
Nolan-ability rating: Catwoman: A-. Talia al Ghul: B–
Catwoman seems almost certain to show up eventually if the current Batman series continues. Talia, on the other hand, probably won’t unless R’as al Ghul also returns, given her character’s intertwined relationship with both men.
Costumed crime lords: Penguin, Black Mask, Scarface and The Ventriloquist
[…] The dapper, gentlemanly Penguin, […] is portrayed these days in the comics as an eccentric but efficiently scheming criminal who controls much of Gotham City’s underground. Though this Penguin’s not as flamboyant as past versions have been, it’s still hard to take him seriously out of the comics’ operatically weird world, and Nolan himself has said moving Penguin into the movies would be “tricky.”
[…] Black Mask, a ruthless and brutal crime boss who takes his name from his ebony skull disguise, and comes with the twist that he bears a grudge against Bruce Wayne rather than his Batman alter ego.
[…] Arnold Wesker, a mild-mannered ventriloquist who keeps a bloody grip on his criminal empire but will only speak though his dummy, Scarface, a wooden doll carved to look like a 1930s gangster. [..] The duo would probably be laughed out of the theater.
Black Mask would fit perfectly, especially if they need another villain in Two-Face’s evil mode.
Nolan-ability Rating: Penguin: D. Black mask: B. Scarface: D.
FofR: Black Mask is an interesting suggestion; I wouldn’t want to see a new incarnation of The Penguin.
Monster men: Man-Bat, Killer Croc and Clayface
[…] Man-Bat is the Mr. Hyde-like double of scientist Kirk Langstrom, who transforms uncontrollably into a giant winged mammal after a lab accident. Killer Croc, similarly, is a mutated beast-man who’s slowly becoming less human and more crocodilian over time. […] Clayface, but the most well-known version is a bloblike creature that can change its shape and eats humans to survive.
Nolan-ability Rating: B+ for all three. “Overtly fantastical elements.“
FofR: Monsters in Nolan’s universe? I don’t see it happening — the power of The Dark Knight lies with its storyline firmly rooted in reality.
The puzzlers: The Riddler and Cluemaster
[…] Edward “Riddler” Nygma wears a trademark green suit covered with question marks […]. His jester-like qualities sometimes make him something of a low-rent Joker, but lately in the comics he’s turned over a new leaf and reinvented himself as a detective, solving puzzles instead of creating them.
[…] Cluemaster, who turned to a life of crime as after being fired from his high-profile TV job, with a signature attention-grabber of leaving clues behind for Batman to follow. Even the Riddler, not exactly the least gimmicky of villains, felt contempt for Cluemaster’s shtick, which he thought was a rip-off of his own.
Nolan-ability Rating: The Riddler: B. Cluemaster: D.
The Riddler’s apparently got a pretty good shot at a future film, if you can believe comments made recently by Gary Oldman [anyone have a link to these comments?]. “Doctor Who” star David Tennant reportedly would love to do it.
Penny Plunderer
[…] Joe Coyne’s particular peccadillo was possibly the most pathetic of any of them: He was obsessed with pennies, going to ludicrous lengths to steal rare coins and one-cent stamps, and defended himself by hurling rolls of copper coins at Batman’s head.
Nolan-ability Rating: C-. “He’d work as comic relief” — [no he wouldn’t]
FofR: No.
Chandell
[…] A pair of twins [from the 1960s television show] — famous pianist Chandell and his evil brother Harry, who schemed to steal a fortune from Batman’s Aunt Harriet and blackmail his own brother in the bargain.
Nolan-ability Rating: D-. […] “camp,” exactly what Nolan’s avoiding.
FofR: No.
Bat-Mite
[…] Batman has his own magical imp who pops in every now and then to sow trouble.
Nolan-ability Rating: F.
FofR: Not a chance, seems like this writer was lazy in their villain shortlist — seriously.. Bat Mite!?
Also, whilst I am going over the villains, remember Zsasz in Batman Begins?
Know a lot about Batman villains?
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Comments 57 Responses to “Villains for Batman 3”
Have Talia Al Ghul in the next film and have Jennifer Connelly play her. I would love to see the Penguin too. And have Bob Hoskins play him. As for Man Bat, Clayface, and Killer Croc do not put them in thr third film. As cool it would be to see any one of these monsters it wouldn’t fit into Nolan’suniverse of Batman. And Riddler, have either Johnny Depp or Jude Law play the puzzler. I’d say have Victor Fries in the film, and have him work with Lucius Fox in Applied Science at Wayne Enterprise. Black Mask and Scarface and the Ventriloquist are also good characters to be in the third.
i don’t have any Articles; but, here’s a suggestion for two villains in a third film.
Catwoman and Black Mask.
Both characters have had history with EACH OTHER in the comics. Both are grounded in some sort of realism and both fit the profile of Nolan’s Gotham and the events that have happened in BB and TDK.
After putting the Joker away; Batman becomes a wanted criminal; but, still fights on the streets of Gotham. Bruce Wayne has fallen into some sort of seclusion and has not been seen as the party boy he once was. Media blames in on the Death Of Rachel Dawes.
Meanwhile a Jewel Thief comes to town and steals a Fabrege egg (or something) Batman hunts this thief and discovers that it is in fact a clever woman who manages to escape his grasp.
Somewhere else; the mob is in dire straights; with Gambol, Maroni, Lau and the Chechen leader dead; the mob has been holding on for dear life. But a new man appears and promises that he can bring Gotham back to the mob with ease; that Gotham is weak and all you have to do is show them that if they can get Gotham’s Prince then they can get the prince’s riches and re-fund themselves. Black Mask clearly has a grudge against Bruce Wayne and wants him destroyed one way or another.
Meanwhile Batman finds himself with feelings for Catwoman and Bruce feelings for a one Selena Kyle…blah blah blah…Batmobile. “How can I love after Rachel?” Black Mask goes after Selena not suspecting she can defend herself…showdown; Batman/Bruce sees Selena is Catwoman he feels betrayed. “How can I love and aide a criminal?”
You know the drill; it has possibilities for a great drama in my opinion.
I think the riddler would be a great addition to the third film, and a great ‘nolan twist’ could be that he never is shown on screen, just a bunch of zodiac-style letters and stuff, and sets traps for batman…
and then in the end, it’s the police who are using “the riddler” as a way to lure and catch batman and try him for his crimes!
Why is everyone counting two face out? He could be locked up in Arkham right now we never see him die or him dead (his eyes closed already would indicate just knocked out) the funeral scene could just have been what they did so the public wouldn’t know the truth that the white knight is in the same place the Joker went. How cool would that be if thats part of the next film? Keeping the truth away from Gotham’s citizens because it’ll destroy them (though in a different way than DK ends) and his antics whatever they may be having to be covered up.
I think the Riddler would work the best but who knows until they start talking about the theme.
Also no huge stars for villians, Heath was a big name before this but he wasnt up there with Johnny Depp or Angelina Jolie (and despite being well known neither is Liam Neeson or Cillian Muprhy) I cannot see it going like that at all and if it does I think it will be a misstep.
Jennifer Connely for Talia though, nice suggestion (and I’m hoping it happens too now).
If they go with the Riddler I’d like to see what Guy Pearce could do maybe.
The real question is how are they going to out do what they did in the Dark Knight? Really if they didn’t make a 3rd one I’d totally understand and be cool with it (though disappointed) but probably with how much its making thats not a possibility.
Two-Face is dead.
It says it in the script.
Black Mask — Believable
Riddler — Believable as an informant (i.e. ( Long Halloween or Hush)
Penguin– believable only if trying to run the Iceberg lounge or as an arms dealer.
Firefly — believable & would provide some flair considering he has a rocket pack & all & is an arsonist.
Enfer(from Batman Inferno novel)- believable , arsonist dramatic, poetic n tries to play with the Joker.
Warren White (aka Great White Shark)- Runs illegal activities out of Arkham Asylum / can be used in a believable way.
Deadshot — used in Gotham Knight could be brought back.
Killer Croc– used in Gotham Knight / less believable in the Silver Screen
I had an idea. Please Read!! I though hard about this.
What if…?
Selina Kyle grows up in the slums, an orphan with a kind but elderly foster caretaker. Somehow, she convinces herself to become somewhat of a robin-hood, stealing from those–and only those–who can afford it. But she hoards it for herself; climbing in social status/rank until she’s in with the élite of Gotham, living in a fancy apartment (Bruce’s same building). In present Gotham time (Batman 3), she is not Catwoman yet. She is inspired by Batman, and discovering that a regular thief is too petty for BATMAN, she switches out her regular theiving gear for the Cat Ears, claws, whip, and jumpsuit–NO WHISKERS OR TAIL–. This does attract his attention, and they find some kind of magnetic attraction. HOWEVER–She has had her own experience with the Joker–who is now in Arkham, biding his time, i suppose–, But Batman does not want to encourage criminality, but they both admire each other; he has finally found his equal; she’s just as or almost as dangerous as he is.
After the long and brutal events of his last encounter with the Joker, etc., Bruce has removed himself a bit from the playboy lifestyle. Stories vary throughout the tabloids. He is slightly depressed-having lost Rachel, On the run as Batman-now a marked criminal, His health is declining-b/c of all his late night outings, and on top of it, a cunning, narcissistic detective in the M.C.U. is on to Batman’s true identity, and will stop at nothing to reveal it to the world. At least the mob is dying down.
Just when Bruce CAN’T TAKE IT ANYMORE…
Comes Selina.
They know each other from the same social class, apt. building, and other places, but they are really seeing each other for the first time, perhaps caused by the previous events. Really, She’s not a bad person; she volunteers her time and resources at the Foster Home, which helped her. And is a BIG Batman supporter. She debates, states it clearly, and vouches for him every time. This attracts Bruce/Batman’s attention in another way, too. He wants her, and she loves him…but he feels it would insult Rachel’s memory, or he just can’t love after that. After Alfred hears that crap, he wishes he hadn’t burned that letter from Rachel. So, in his more inspirational voice, he explains that Rachel left a letter and loved Dent, not him, but he burned the letter. Bruce will be moody for a while, but once he see Selina again, he can’t help but at least try a real relationship. They get into a fierce, strong relationship. They depend on each other to be the only person who truly understands them. I was also thinking that BRUCE could meet Catwoman by her trying to rob him, but he thwarts her, and they discover each others true identities, which only strengthens their relationship. So, they belong together. YES.
I think that the Riddler should have an important-ish role in this film, with a modern twist, as the detective who finds out who Batman is.
I would also like to see MR.Freeze, Dr.Fries, emerge somehow. Possibly working in some type of science or engineering at Wayne Enterprises.
Harvey-Two-Face is DEAD, everyone. No more of him.
SO, PLEASE TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK!!!!!!!!
as responsew to vodkahandstand… i also thought about guy pearce as the riddler. i think that since he already did memento with nolan, they would work really well together and bring some serious chemistry to table. i really like the idea of the riddler working for the mcu to find out who batman really is, but there has to be something that makes him go to the “bad side”. perhaps obsession? you can’t really play the crazy card too much. my only problem with the riddler is his real name. i don’t know if christopher nolan would want a character with a name as silly as e. nygma to be in his realistic take on the batman world.
two face can go either way. he served his purpose in the last film, but since i doubt they are bringing the joker back, it’s kind of hard to lose two of batman’s biggest villains at the same time. i think it would be cool to have two face come back in the next film to keep the vibe that true evil is still out there in gotham city. but he could easily be killed off right in the middle of the movie as the riddler gains his momentum as the main villain.
i don’t really see enough incentive for catwoman to be there except for love interest. even then, batman/bruce has enough to worry about.
i don’t know if enough people would take the penguin seriously.
i’m all for having a “minor” villain like black mask show up, just because it would work great for the story if done right. but i think that a notable villain is needed to bring out a crowd for this movie like they did for the dark knight.
Main villains:
Bane, Deathstroke, BlackMask, Hush
Side Villains:
Killer Croc, Anarky(He isn’t a villain), Deadshot(Only with Black Mask) Prometheus(only with Hush) Riddler.
Woman villains:
Harley Quinn, Catwoman, Talia al Ghul.
Sidekick:
Robin, Nightwing, or Batgirl(not Barabra only the one whos whole face is covered.)Huntress.
They probably should only introduce the sidekick at the end but not even have him be a sidekick just have bruce take him in.
My picks:
Bane.
BlackMask with Deadshot
Anarky(Have the public turn to him since they are against Batman)
Talia al Ghul
And at the end have Harley Quinn and introduce Dick Grayson but not as robin or nightwing just as a teenager whos parents just died and bruce wayne take him in.
If having Deathstroke which I have heard some fans cry out for because he is the smartest villain in the Dc universe I think he should also have his daughter as a sidekick.
Have the Cassandra Cain version of Batgirl, she is very dark, her father even framed Batman.
So it would be Batman and Batgirl against Deathstroke and his daughter.
But I dunno if that would make for a good movie.
If Hush is done
Hush with his Sidekick Prometheus.
Huah could touch up on bruces past that we haven’t seen as him as a child with freinds.
But if they have prometheus he is a worthy foe on his own so it could make for a pretty good movie just those two villains.
Maybe have Catwoman and help Batman take down these two.
Who knows I’ve had lots of thoughts about movies since I like to read the comics. (No not the same storylines as the comics)
If they have Talia al Ghul maybe have her take over the league of shadows but we don’t there is a league of shadows till the end of the movie. Angelina jolie would make a great Talia and a Bad Catwoman.
Russel Crowe would make a great Black Mask.
Lesser Known Villains:
KGBeast, Zeiss, Abattoir, Amygdala,
Zeiss was hired by the mob and fought Batman to a stand still.
Abattoir killed his parents and wants to kill his family he is an insane person.
Amygdala has enchanced Strength and goes on rages but when he is properly medicated he is very peaceful.
KGBeast trained by the soviets great at fighting and a force to be reckoned with eventually loses his hand and replaces it with a cybernetic gun.
I dunno if they should use any of these except for Zeiss, Mob can hire him to take down batman but thats to much of the same as the dark knight.
Sometimes it’s like you guys haven’t seen the films Christopher Nolan has created…
Where did you find a script that says Two-Face is dead? I’d like a link. I don’t think he’s dead.
isn’t Mr Reese the Riddler?
plus i think Two Face survived the fall. (Marroni surivived a similar fall and there’s no body or coffin at the end, i think)
if Cat Woman is in the film she should want revenge on Scarecrow for driving Falcone insane (possibly her father in the comcis)
Talia al Ghul would be pretty cool too.
i’d love to see Timothy Spall play the Mad Hatter.
I still have hope for Harley Quinn. Maybe as a Joker copycat or someone who’s carrying out his crimes from the inside (just so it keeps the whole Dr. Quinzel thing).
I see Catwoman as a very real possibility though as well as the Riddler. And personally? I think David Tennant could do it.
I would definitely want to see Harley Quinn in cameo appearance gettin into the mind of the Joker for all us die hard fans.
TWO-FACE, I dont believe is dead and if the writers are going to borrow from the Long Halloween, and its sequel Dark Victory, then it would make sense to bring Harvey back, but not as a main villian, maybe as an aid to Black Mask.
I think Harvey needs to find redemption.
Black Mask would be a perfect main villain as head of the MOB and villain to Bruce.
Edward Nashton “Riddler”-working for the cops to find Batman’s identity would work perfect, then getting screwed over by Gotham’s finest which leads him to become a even more narcissistic psycho , but please no comedic Riddler, we really need an obsessive person.
It would be nice to bring in Selina Kyle, but I dont think yet as Catwomen, maybe we can get in depth with her past and origins. And supposedly shes the daughter of Falcone, maybe that could play into that element.
AND PLEASE NO JENNIFER CONNELLY AS CATWOMEN, SHES CHEESY.
MR. Freeze! And its winter in Gotham. That would make for one bada** Nolan film!
what about lex luthor? i am thinkin exo-suit style… kevin spacey was my favorite part of superman returns! having a villian w/o superpowers per se, seems to fit the nolan scheme (2face, joker, scarecrow, ras). and remember lex is DC so it might be a realistic take. i think he could do something pretty terrible (and if they want to “kill” batman and leave the door wide open for a crazy take on superman…) i think that this next film will be end of the nolan-bale vision (at least thats what i thought, i sure hope NOT!). eh?
o-yeah and NO JENNFIER CONNELLY! I SECOND THAT!!!!
and according to my dreams… claire danes as posion ivy!!!!!!!!!! sorry i had to add that!
o-yeah and pleeeeese throw in kevin conroy a cameo!!!! he has paid his dues.
best batmen
tied for first — keaton and bale
second — conroy
third — west
fourth — kilmer
fifth — vacant
sixth — vacant
seventh — clooney, i guess.
I think the Riddler will be in the third film, which should be called “The Caped Crusader”, and i think Black mask should deff be in too.
I think the Penguin could have a very small part with a hint to a future movie, why not have him have a small part as an arms dealer or mobster that Batman hunts down just for information and is not put away for anycrimes just a normal mobster.
There’s an Artwork book; that has the script in the back of the book; if you bothered to take the time you will see it explains like this:
“Both Batman and Dent fall off; Dent Hits the grown he is DEAD; Broken neck…”
In the script DEAD is capitalized and in bold print.
End of story.
Yes, Harvey Dent is dead. However, that doesn’t mean that Two Face is. After all, there may be a funeral for Harvey Dent, but there was no sign of a body or coffin during that scene. So I definitely wouldn’t rule him out as one of the next villians.
I also think there’s a good chance for Catwoman because of the whole “It works well against cats” reference, which is similar to the Two Face reference Bruce makes in Batman Begins.
If anything, I’m really hoping Harley Quinn will be in the next one. According to IMDB, “There is a doctor in the hospital with a very similar name to Harleen Quinzell on her name tag, which might be a nod to Harley Quinn for future installments,” so I’ll keep my fingers crossed.
Concept for the sequel to “The Dark Knight”
After the events of “The Dark Knight”, Batman is labeled a criminal. Rather than have the support of Citizens for Batman he is now being under surveillance by public watches and undercover police. Believing that Batman had killed Harvey Dent, the citizens of Gotham City are more interested in the capture of batman rather than his exploits of heroics. With this in mind, it is almost impossible for Gordon to meet with Batman leaving him with the only possible way to get information, Oswald Chesterfield Cobblepot. (note: In several comic issues Batman has been known to get information from known felons in exchange for leaving their operations alone, including Cobblepot)
Main Villain -
Oswald Chesterfield Cobblepot (AKA Penguin)
–Cobblepot is a arms dealer who is in competition with Wayne Enterprises for Military contracts. Cobblepot moved to Gotham from London after is mother passed away and started his side business, the 1920’s themed nightclub “The Iceberg Lounge” (this would explain the tuxedo). He has two passions in life — Money and Power. After the death of Maroni, Cobblepot sees an opportunity to establish himself in the criminal underworld even though he has only dealt in small time crimes. He sets up a meeting with the heads of the major crime families and expresses his interest in joining them stressing that he has the Bat and the government in his back pocket. They laugh and think is just a criminal wannabe. Cobblepot’s greed leaves him with one choice, to kill all of the major heads of the crime families and assume control of Gotham Cities underworld.
Secondary Villain -
Edward Nashton (AKA The Riddler)
–Nashton has had problems with mental illness for many years. Multiple medications and psychiatrists later, he is still not cured of his obsession. His obsession — murder. After each murder he leaves a calling card in the shape of a riddle with a question mark on the front of it (Sort of Zodiac killer which the papers refer to him as “The Riddler”). Cobblepot realizes that in order to take control of Gotham’s underworld he would need someone with a gift for killing and someone who could cause chaos and throw off Batman. Cobblepot decides to use Riddler’s services as a paid assassin in order to help him acheive his goal off greed.
Major changes the villains:
Penguin – He is not referred to as the penguin but at a key scene of the movie he explains that kids called him Penguin and he later killed them. As a child he was called a penguin because he had a hook nose and carried an umbrella. The reason for the umbrella was that his mother forced him to carry it after his father died of pneumonia from a downpour. His cigarette is changed to a cigar to mimic a Winston Churchill vibe. His monocle is replaced with a pair of glasses. He is British in a sort of homage to Burgess Merideth’s British accented penguin. Because he his an arms dealer he is able to have custom made a compact machine gun fitted into his umbrella (he only uses this once to kill the off the rest of the mobsters).
Riddler – In this version he returns to a more minor role like in the first comics. He is a henchman because of his craft to kill and he is able to throw of batman and cause chaos. (Cobblepot is not crazy so in order to throw of batman like the joker did he needs the help of another lunatic) Riddler’s appearance is simple and less gimicy than the comic books. He dresses like the painting “The Son of Man” by Rene Magritte. (Nashton is obsessed with this painting and has copies of it all over his apartment) He wears a green tie and green party mask. A little shabier clothing like the joker in The Dark Knight. He does not have a question mark on his clothing except for the riddles he leaves have a question mark on the envelope.
Nolan said he didn’t want to do Penquin…
Dent/Two-Face whatever…is dead. He broke is neck. The end. Please stop talking about him; BELIEVE the director
Where did the director say that?
Okay, I think they bring back two important characters
1) the joker — They didn’t give him an origin story like in the killing joke, we need a trial for him, followers, and just because he’s the best batman villian.
2) two-face — He should be turned into a villian but become a hero.
We also need another vigilante.
catwoman — She fought along with batman to destroy the mob and prrrfect romance between her and batman and their alter egos.
An ordinary citizen corrupted by the joker.
Mike Engel aka Riddler — He obsessed about batman in he dark knight.
Finally, a mob boss.
Black mask — Sal Maroni burnt in the car accident.
So yeah.
BatGirl567,
love the idea of your Catwoman,
that’s what I had in mind on other post. But I don’t like the end of your story. Finding Catwoman’s identity should not make their relationship stronger instead but put Wayne into distrust and dilemma.
But still, it is not enough to (quoting aheadofthecurve) bring out a crowd as a main villain.
Penguin can be put on Nolan’s universe if he is not the main villain but an annoying, selfish, legitimate Businessman (think about William Earle from Batman Begins).
I still prefer the forgotten ‘Anarky’ (created by Alan Grant). Because if he become the main villain, Batman should face the whole Gotham low-economy-class citizen which support Anarky.
If there gonna be more than 2 to 3 villians in this movie then this movie might just sink very low like all these other trilogy movies. Just keep the Riddler and Talia Al Guhl but, that’s it.
But the joker need’s more of a backstory and followers because he was the main villian but it wasn’t focused on him and i would be majorly pointless for catwoman and batman to reveal their identities to each other. The Peguin is too campy. But it would have to leave of what happened in the dark knight like the joker would have a trial because arkham might shut down and jail wouldn’t be good because he’ll escape and his followers might get him out, Sal might survive but become black mask, Joker needs to corrupt Mike Engel, Catwoman will fight the mob with batman and Two face should turn himself in and help batman.
Have ” Two face” included in the third one at a time Gotham was collapsing into pieces again. Two face plus gotham collapsing will challenge Batman. and Add The Riddler. I’m sure Chris Nolan can make him a very interesting character. No Catwoman, no Jolie, this will ruin the movie. and last but not least, Talia will make Bruce’s new love interest.
Michael says:
I have different alternatives for batman 3 that just might work.
Since batman is seen as a criminal, the police have wanted signs for him. A person called Edward Nigma emerges as a person who is going to find the true identity of batman and receive fame as a detective.
I like the idea of catwoman by batgirl567. Nolan can do that, as a villain/love interest. And maybe include another minor villain and mob dealer.
Or: We could have Riddler, catwoman, and Penguin as the mob criminal is out to find out what really happened to harvey.Bruce to prevent this, he beggs lucius to help him again.And have two-face in it too as a camio like what they did to crane in tdk. So the villains would be Riddler, catwoman, PENGUIN and his henchman which could include 1 or 2 other noticable viilains. And a mob villain who is working for penguin like Maroni for Joker. And then in theend when Batman is seen as a hero and Harvey’s secret is still kept secret, catwoman dies trieng to protect Batman in a battle with Riddler and Penguin. And in the end, Wayne manor is build, bruce opens the door and says ” whATS’S YOUR NAME” SHE SAYS ” I’M VICKY VALE” DUN, DUN, DUN.
sO WHAT DO YOU THINK.
How about Sheri Moon Zombie play Harley Quinn and Rob Zombie come up with the costume for her, it’ll be pretty fucking demonic. Jude Law play the Riddler, Johnny Depp as Black Mask, Jennifer Connolly as Talia Al Guhl, and Bob Hoskins as the Penguin. And of course have Aaron Eckhart and Christian Bale as their regular characters. Plus at the end have Two Face find out that Bruce Wayne is Batman by the help of Riddler.
First off, I honestly believe that there shouldn’t be a third. It would be hard to beat TDK and it and its sequel stand together perfectly. They’ll definately do a sequel though, whether the Nolans have anything to do with it or not, because Warner Bros made way too much this go around to let it sit.
They could do more with The Joker. I wouldn’t want them to, because of Heath Ledger’s outstanding performance, and a lot of people wouldn’t want them to either. However, The Nolan duo are very smart and even though they don’t want to disrespect Heath or anything, they’d put The Joker back in a heart beat if it were a compelling story.
As for villains, I also really like the Black Mask. Catwoman, maybe. The smartest thing done in The Dark Knight was to kill Rachel. It moved the Story to a whole new level and made it more adult. The Superman/Louis Lane Spider-man/Mary Jane thing is fun and all, but nothing unexpected. With that said, I think it would be a good idea to leave a love interest to the side lines, or minor at best.
The Riddler maybe (no Johnny Depp. he’d be decent at best as The Riddler. Besides, Tim Burton already had his spin with Batman). Mr. Reese as the Riddler is a nice thought, but I don’t think it will happen.
The Penguin no way. A big name for big names sake is pointless.
Either way, The Dark Knight made a lot of opportunity. Because of the huge sucess of TDK. A third installment will already have a large audience from the get go; despite the villain or the Nolan’s involvement. Because of that (if they do it) The Nolans can make a really powerful, dark, almost indie for lack of a better term of a movie. Because of that they can use a lesser known villain that would make a better story.
when they wrote the script I doubt they knew Heath was going to die so thats probably why they killed off Two Face, now that things have changed I dont see why it would be a problem to bring him back which would be way better than trying to recast the joker.
Saxophone7770,
Here’s my take on Batman 3. I’ve taken a similar direction. Let me know what you guys think.
Commission Gordon has formed a task force to catch a cop killer called the “Hangman” who turns out to be Boss Maroni’s wife out for revenge after Harvey Dent killed her husband. Batman is still on the run from the cops and the very vigilantes he inspired and is now being hunted by hitmen hired by the “Hangman”.
Meanwhile, the Board of Directors at Wayne Enterprises is secretly questioning Fox’s capacity to run the company. The Board has become increasing suspicious of Fox after he promote Reese to run the weapons department. However this was actually Bruce’s decision which causes a rift between Bruce and Fox. Fox advises Bruce that Reese isn’t to be trusted and that putting him in this position is dangerous for the both of them. Bruce calms Fox by telling him that it would be better to keep Reese close so they can keep an eye on him.
Meanwhile, Reese is enjoying his new position of power even though his reputation has been destroyed after he refused to give up Batman’s identity. Reese while loyal to Bruce comes to resent Batman because of the risks to his own self interest. He knows that if something should happen to Bruce he would lose everything.
Batman and Gordon meet for the first time in months when a group of Joker copycats lead by Harley Quinn ambush Gordon and his men. Batman swoops in and captures Quinn. Gordon and Batman discuss the past few months. Gordon tells Batman that cyber-crime has jumped suggesting criminals are still scared to walk the streets. Batman agrees telling him the powerful criminal left in Gotham is a mere two bit drug dealer (the Scarecrow). Gordon admits that it is getting better but he worries that outsiders may move in to fill the void left by the Joker.
Meanwhile, Scarecrow meets with an arms dealer to buy knock-off bat weapons and is quickly overpowered by the Penguin’s men. Scarecrow nearly faints when he learns from the goons that the Penguin is in Gotham. Penguin then enters the room and wants to know who is supplying Scarecrow with the weapons being sold on the black market. Scarecrow swears they aren’t Penguin’s weapons and explains that his weapons are blown up bat toys and that his only reason to sell is because weapons are the new drugs in Gotham since everyone is buying them to hunt the Batman. Penguin explains the art of war to Scarecrow and that Batman is nothing without his superior weapons. Penguin explains his plan deal with Batman. First they need to level the playing field so they’ll arm all of Gotham with Penguins weapons to keep Batman off balance. Then they move in and steal Batman’s weapons. And then sell him more weapons. Penguin laughs as we understand that he is using Batman to boost his sales.
Meanwhile at Wayne Enterprises, Reese becomes even more desperate after Fox threatens to fire him when an entire weapons shipment coming up missing (which was actually stolen by the Penguin). Reese investigates online posing as a weapons dealer selling blue prints for some of the bat toys using the Alias Mr. E. The Penguin contacts him and makes him an offer he can’t refuse when Penguin offers him enough money to buy enough shares in Wayne Enterprise to stage a hostile takeover.
However, Penguin is secretly using Reese to find the source of the Bat Toys and has already hired a spy without a name and armed her with his own weapons. Her mission is to discover the identity of Mr. E at Wayne Enterprises and to steal his Bat toys. She becomes known on the streets as the Catwoman after torturing thugs for info by scratching their faces to shreds with her claws. She goes undercover at Wayne Enterprises using the name Selina Kyle and becomes Fox’s new assistant believing that he is Mr. E. She begins to fill Bruce in on the day to day operations at Wayne Enterprises as Bruce’s relationship with Fox falls apart. She then begins dating Bruce while secretly stealing his bat toys without actually knowing he’s Batman.
Meanwhile, the Penguin lets Reese know that he’s out of the loop. Reese puts things together and realizes that Penguin hired a corporate spy to steal the weapons under his nose to set him up as the fall guy. Reese comes up with a plan to cover up his deeds as he installs a weapons grade computer virus under his control at Wayne Enterprises and uses it to shut down critical points of Gotham’s infrastructure. However, Reese isn’t a killer so he uses puzzle that only Batman can solve in order to divert Bruce’s attention away from focusing on the stolen bat toys on the streets. Gordon dubs the man behind this as “the Riddler.” While Batman is kept busy solving puzzles before the program shuts down another section of the city Reese begins covering up his crimes by wiping files and shredding documents.
However, Selina finds Reese’s files stored on her flash drive and learns that Bruce is Batman and Reese is the Riddler. Reese catches her using his computer and alerts the police that there is corporate spy at Wayne Enterprises. Bruce arrives and is shocked to find the spy is Selina as she begs him to forgive her. When the police arrive, Reese shocks everyone when he points the finger at Bruce knowing that Bruce will be unable to account for his nights out as Batman and will have to take a plea deal which should force the board to force Bruce out as majority stockholder making Reese the new majority owner of Wayne Enterprises. As Bruce is lead away in handcuffs, Reese cancels the virus program as the City regains power.
Selina leaves Wayne Enterprises to meet with the Penguin. She tells him that Bruce is the Batman. The Penguin wants the rest of his bat toys and names of his suppliers. Scarecrow wants revenge. So they all hatch a plan to break Bruce out of Jail. During the escape, Catwoman double crosses Scarecrow and Penguin as she and Bruce escape. She then tasks off her masks revealing herself to Bruce.
The city goes black again when the Penguin restarts the virus program. Penguin then sends Bruce a text message to meet nearby. They arrive and Penguin reveals Reese as the Riddler who used one of the Penguin’s viral program to commit cyber crimes which lead him to Gotham and to Wayne Enterprise and finally to Bruce. Bruce realizes that the Penguin was one of the original suppliers for Bruce’s bat suit and Bruce has made this arms dealer rich and powerful in the process of becoming Batman. Penguin offers a truce to the man that made all of this possible. He offers to let Bruce go free if he gives up all of the weapons and his suppliers and being Batman. He explains that Gotham will always have a Batman because this Batman is the greatest marketing tool for his weapons business. Bruce realizes that Penguin’s goal is to keep the war going and it will tear Gotham apart. Penguin is in fact bringing in his own Batmen armed with his weapons for Gotham to hunt them down forever in an endless cycle.
In the end, Batman catches Scarecrow and Reese. However, Reese escapes when Batman unsuccessfully stops Catwoman from killing the Penguin. Reese then makes a call to a CEO in a huge office wearing a top hat (Mad Hatter).
Meanwhile, Batman meets Catwoman on the roof of Wayne Enterprises. She wants to put everything behind them and start a new life. He tells her he doesn’t even know her real name. She says, “It doesn’t really matter what they call us Bruce.” Bruce feels that she has crossed the line killing Penguin in cold blood and is wanted for murder. She replies, “They want both of us for doing things for the greater good. The world thinks Bruce Wayne dead. We can start a new life any where in the world, Bruce.” Batman replies, “Bruce Wayne is died a long time ago.” Catwoman lifts up his mask and touches his face. She says touching his face, “This is your mask.” She then puts down his mask as Gordon arrives. Then while touching his mask she says, “This is the man I love” as Gordon’s cops drag her away.
GORDAN: Assassins. She’s definitely wanted all over the world.
BATMAN: What about the boy (Dick Grayson)?
[NOTE: WE NEVER SEE DICK OR ROBIN. WE JUST GET A HINT THAT ALFRED HAS TAKEN A YOUNG BOY NAMED DICK GRAYSON IN TO CARE FOR HIM FOR REASONS UNKNOWN TO US AT THIS POINT. THAT’S IT. ALSO, DICK IS WAY TO YOUNG TO BECOME ROBIN SO IT IS LIKELY BRUCE WILL SEND HIM OFF TO BOARDING SCHOOL OR WHATEVER. THE POINT IS WE INTRODUCE THE CHARACTER.]
GORDAN: Somebody just picked him up. Apparently Wayne is taking him in. I guess he feels responsible or maybe its just good PR. What about this Riddler character?
BATMAN: (watching Catwoman escape swinging from rooftop to rooftop)
He’ll turn up.
GORDAN: She’s good. (Pointing down at the missing grappling gun on Batman’s belt).
BATMAN: (Looks down and smirks)
FLASH FORWARD: [Gordon at home talking to Jimmy on the stoop]
JIMMY: (crying) Why?
GORDAN: Because we don’t need him anymore, son. (Picking up and hugging Jimmy)
JIMMY: Will he ever come back?
GORDAN: It’s the darkness. It calls to him. If it should ever take hold of Gotham again …that will be the day… (looks up into skyline) the Dark Knight Returns.
FLASHBACK TO ROOF TOP:
GORDAN: When does this end?
BATMAN: (Looks back at Gordon). It never ends. (and then jumps off the roof).
I personally don’t want to see any of the usual Batman villains. They’ve all been done to death and that it’s going to be one of them is too predictable.
The logical progression from TDK is that Batman is going to be cast as the bad guy (in the eyes of Gotham).
The lie will get out of the control of Gordon and Batman. Fuelled by the press, more and more stuff will get pinned on him, criminals will start to dress up like him, and all manner of crimes will be attributed to him, tapping into a theme from Julius Ceasar (who was mentioned in TDK) that the mob likes only one thing more than building up a hero, and that is destroying a hero.
Eventually, the citizens of Gotham will call for the nuclear option — the ultimate response (the big theme), and that nuclear option in the DC universe is Superman, the most powerful being and weapon in the universe.
Cue a shocking and titanic battle, with Superman initially buying the press rubbish, and Batman seeing Superman rather like the monster in Cloverfield, as something alien and out of this world, that doesn’t belong in it, and needs to be destroyed. Remember Fox saying that no one man should have that much power in TDK about Batmans machine? That’s what Batman is going to see in Superman — one man who has too much power — something that like the machine should not exist.
Seeing something as out there as Superman in the relatively realistic Nolan&Goyer Batman universe will be shocking, and as long as Nolan&Goyer can put their twist on Superman without destroying his essence, that shock value will be helpful to them. (Not an easy task and no one has been able to do it, except in some of the comics, which will be known to those to whom elements of this storyline will be familiar.)
It won’t be hard for them to portray Superman as the ‘bad guy’ to us, because he could embody that blind do gooder attitude, that sees everything at face value, and rushes in all guns blazing, with more power than he seems to know what to do with.
The resolution of the film will be that Batman comes to see that Superman is not just a powerful being, but an extraordinary human being — someone worthy of being trusted with the power he has, but contrary to most peoples expectations Batman will win the fight because he will discover Superman’s Achillies heel — kryptonite.
Goyer asked in his recent interview how they could top TDK, well I think this would do the trick, assuming they could overcome the considerable challenges, most obviously: How to handle Superman in the Goyer&Nolan Batman universe and who would you get to play Superman who could put in a performance to equal Heath Ledgers?
wow talk about detail BUT how bout this for a storyline.…ok lets see how bout this for villains in part 3 the intro of Robin? huh huh BUT before u start thinkin this guys an idiot no one wants to see Robin after the last couple of movies he was in before the new Batman era HEAR ME OUT!well like i said Robin BUT wait i dont mean Robin the superhero and batmans sidekick, i mean Dick Grayson revengeful and hatred hidden within Robin! lets say batman thinks its time for some help but he just cant trust anybody so kind of like his protégé and tryin to raise him like a lil brother he finds this orphan whos parents are killed by Two-face at the beginning of the movie and with amazing athletic ability and all the qualities to take over the Batman throne but his only problem is that he wants to get revenge on the man who killed his parents TwoFace so alright in his first tryout they go after Two-Face and somehow someway it comes down to Robin deciding to save Two-Face and lock him up or let him die hmmmmm sound familiar? well how bout this Robin lets him die.…..so after this unexpected turn of events batman realizes that hes not ready for such a responsibility and tells Robin to take it easy for a couple of runs during the night.…so now it gets better one night batman and robin hear that the joker has escaped from Arkham and batman decides to go after him but tells Dick to stay cuz hes not ready being frustrated he cant do nothing Robin goes out anyways as things get complicated for batman cuz all of Gotham PD is after him it once again comes down to Robin and the villain but this time the tables are turned and its up to the joker to kill him but instead he pulls a Harvey Dent on him and corrupts his young mind and PLOW there you go instead of batman having a protégé the joker once again outdoes his lifelong counter part BATMAN!!!!!just think about it and if ur thinkin this came out of nowhere and theres nothing in the past that backs this up i dont know if anyone can remember a couple of years ago they made a cartoon movie where this exact thing happens Dick Grayson turns into the joker yup!!!!sounds perfect and plus i hated Robin in the other movies and this gives a BIG turn to the series i mean he doesnt exactly have to turn into the Joker 2 he can turn into some other villain that we would all want to see like maybe ummm BLACK MASK!!!!!!sounds like a perfect way for such a villain to come into this darker and better and more realistic version of the new Batman Era!!!! comment it and tell me wat u think even though after giving it much thought this would fit for a later film after part 3 cuz this sort of seems like the end or something towards the end!
how bout Johnny Depp to replace Heath as the Joker and how bout Edward Norton to play the Riddler and Hugh Jackman as the Black Mask now thats a star lineup that cannot go wrong!
Two Face isn’t gone…possibly
I would like to see Bane but only if its when he breaks batmans back and temporarily cripples him and Azrael fills in for him but i doubt it will ever happen
Okay, there were alot of good suggestions there… and one of these theories may be pretty close to what there going to do. You people spoil me.
As far as the caped crusaders love interests go… he should not have one. Due to recent failure movies, Catwoman should be left for another day… maybe as an addition to a later portion of the saga. And don’t anybody forget about Vicki Vale, Bruce Waynes original comic book main squeeze… that would be interesting.
Anyway, I have a theory. I don’t think that the Peguin character is too far fetched. In the after math of the DK, the Batman is being hunted by gothams police force, Bruce Wayne has fallen into a deep depression of guilt and revenge, and the Mob is left broken with no leader to manage the underworld with the death of Maroni. But where there is grim and sure extinction, a vulture is near by. An intelligent but strange man returns to Gotham after hearing of the chaos that has errupted… his name if Oswald Cobblepot, a man who’s resentfullness to people dates back to his abussive mother and childhood teasing due to his large frame and beak-like nose. He is an ambitious man… but for the wrong reasons. He see’s the breaking of the Mob as an opertunity to rebuild gothams underworld and gain power through illegal arms deals. He seduces the crime families to follow him with his plan to rid there sorrows. First, like the joker before him, kill the Batman who helped to bring them down. Second, corrupt gotham Cities new Mayor and dispose of Commissioner Gordan, Third… and most importantly, KILL THE JOKER who foiled there power through Harvey Dent and is still a threat to them. The killing of the joker can be easily done by never showing the characters face… only faint profiles and voice/laughter. A corrupt mayor would be able to get the Penguins gang inside the asylum where he is held to take care of business. It would only be a few moments, but it would bring an end to all theories of bringing the character back… and no actor in hollywood could ever replace Ledger.
But the Penguin, while the leader and “puppet master,” he is not the main villain. He knows that he despises the Joker, but he cannot ignore his geniouse. While the police are destracted by there ambition to find the Bat, Cobblepot hires an escaped convict from Arkham (at the end of BB) to destract and kill Batman. Though he is as crazy as the joker, he can be controlled for the right price. That’s right, the Riddler. He commits his crime’s ruthlessly and targets Comm. Gordans family by kidnapping one of his sons, leaving clues and riddles to lure the bat to his trap… a bomb planted inside a giant structure where Gordans son is being held, a mass killing of Gotham Cities most prominant law enforcement, politicians, and business men (including Wayne) at the annual circus. Odviously Batman will foil the plot, bringing down the Riddler and saving Gordans son… but not without some sacrifies. Two married trapees artist will be killed, leaving a son (Dick Grayson) parentless. Bruce Wayne will see in him the same revenge and fear that he still holds. He would Bring this young boy into his home to be raised by him and Alfred and will see a chance of redeeming his past sins and demons by ensuring that this young man does not follow the same path as he has. But what about the Penguin, Well, that will have to wait for a following installment. It just wouldn’t be fun otherwise.…
Ideal Actors for Villians:
Oswald “The Penguin” Cobblepot: John Goodman (call me crazy, I just think he’s awsome).… or Phillip Seymour Hoffman
Edward “The Riddler” Nigma: Johnny Depp or Jude law
Salena “Catwoman” Kyl (if needed): Cate Beckinsale
Sorry guys, Harley Quinn and Riddler
Tennant for Riddler, and Christina Applegate of Quinn.
End of.
I THINK IT SHOULD BE CLAYFACE OR KILLER CROC AND YES HE IS A MAIN VILLIN. LATER
With the Joker now behind bars, and batman’s escape from the law and subsequent disappearance, Commissioner Gordon assembles a task force to finally dissolve the remaining criminal organizations throughout Gotham city. Order is once again threatened by a mysterious new criminal lurking in the shadows, who forces the city to solve clues of a larger puzzle that reveals the greatest riddle of all – what really happened to Gotham’s White Knight – Harvey Dent. With Batman and Gordon reunited, they fight to win back a city that has turned against them, all while Batman faces his greatest challenge yet – remnants of a past long thought forgotten….
I personally see the Riddler fitting in as a “agent of choas” type deal to replace the joker. However they incorporate him i dont know, im in favor of either a crazy cop investigator or closet unknown nut job who goes on a killing spree, either way, challenging Batman to his riddles. I think the Black Mask would be great for picking up with the mafia part. Bringing Harvey back from the the dead isnt out of the question, but i dont think most people would be very keen on that. Nolan’s whole premise in these films is to create a world that isnt to trivial or much of a farce, using cartoon-ish characters like clayface should be left to Marvel with Spider-Man 3 (reference being sandman) and Xmen.
I personally see the Riddler fitting in as an “agent of choas” type deal to replace the joker and his crazy persona, not the Riddler being a carbon copy of the joker, but with the same sort of drive for some evil purpose that is beyond material gain. However they incorporate him i dont know, im in favor of either a crazy cop investigator or closet unknown nut job who goes on a killing spree, either way, challenging Batman to his riddles. I think the Black Mask would be great for picking up with the mafia part, slightly crazy, theatrical, and very mafioso. Bringing Harvey back from the the dead isnt out of the question, but i dont think most people would be very keen on that. Nolan’s whole premise in these films is to create a world that isnt to trivial or much of a farce, using cartoon-ish characters like clayface should be left to Marvel with Spider-Man 3 (reference being sandman) and Xmen.
The audience wouldnt be looking for a new romance on Bruce’s part, hell, people didnt love TDK because of the romance. So a Harley Quinn romance would not be practical. And would be viewed as a cheap copy of the Joker on the Director’s and writer’s part.
i dont know why it double placed my message but the second one is complete
two face and the joker well be back. count on it
Idea for Batman 3
Main Villians: Hush (Dr Thomas Elliot) & Deadshot (Floyd Lawton)
Hush would fit into Nolan’s universe easily, he has no ‘special abilities’ as such, he is just trained very well. Similar to the skills of Batman. Hush is an amazing marksman with ‘the ability to shoot 2 batarangs out of the air’. Hush is a childhood friend of Bruce’s, and has blamed Bruce’s parents for saving his mother from a car crash that Elliot caused. He hated his parents and wanted them dead, ever since Thomas Wayne saved his mother, Elliot has hated the Waynes. He is pshycotic and bent on revenge for the Trauma he suffered during childhood.
Lawton (Deadshot) would fit in as a hired assassin. Hired by the remnants of the crime sundicates who have naded together in troubled times. He is skilled with any weapons, but prefers to use dual Pistols.
Final fight scene: Hush has found out about Wayne’s identity. He can recognise the eyes and nouth movements of Batman and matches them to wayne when he sees him on Television. Hush engages in a fist fight with Batman, he follows him up onto the roof where Batman has suffered serious injury. Batman is moving back on the roof, blood seeping out of a wound. Hush has drawn his two pistols ready to finish the job, Hush is having flashbacks of when Bruce and Elliot used to be friends. Batman’s new sonar sensor is seeing some normal activity. Everything is silent apart from a few drips of water and distant police sirens. The sonar picks up the loading and cocking of a sniper rifle. As Hush moves towards Batman, the flashbacks now stopped he is ready to pull the trigger. As Batman sees the red laser sights flash on Hush’s chest, he slides out his Grappling Gun and shoots Hush in the leg, pulling him down the bullet fired from Deadshot’s sniper rifle just misses the left ear of Hush. Batman then throw’s a smoke capsule as the ground and pulls Hush to the ground behind the buildings, Deadshot chases them.
Deadshot chases them through the streets. As Deadshot approaches Batman, Hush helps him as Batman has just saved his life. Batman stumbles off as Hush and Deadshot have a shootout. Hush loses as he is shot 8 times. Deadshot shoots 8 bullets. Batman rushes to help Hush as he is shot in the arm by Deadshot, Deadshot hears the sirens of Commissioner Gordon and flees. Batman takes Hush back to the Batcave in the Tumbler. Then there is a nice emotional talk about how the used to be friends and Hush will keep Bruce’s secret. Hush has to be in a wheelchair due to the wounds he got in the fight.
Just one idea, more to come, tell us what ya’ll think.
the black mask: he is pretty real he can be a evil mobster that kills people brutly trying to run the town killing heros like police and people who dont listen to his ways
fire fly: dress up in orangewearing wings and orange flylike stuff and starts his owne gang and pack ect.} carrying flamethrowers and matchs ect.} causing chaos to gotham trying to make the city chaos
the peguin: a deformed small man but instead of guns on unbirallas sorry i spelled it wrong but blades and he teachs birds how to terriorze the city attack them pecking them tearing at there flesh teahcing them to place or dorp bombs and he can be in the mafia
two face: have him come back for some really bad revange having henchmen kidnapping and terriozing gotham city kiling importint people destroying places.
catwoman: i think she is boring personly but if they throw her in throw a really cool villan in to she can be a vilgantit that robs stores and still help people too. being the good and bad factor.
the joker: still in charge of chaos escaping arkham asylum taking a partner hairly quenn
harily quenn: jokers partner or just a female verison of the joker if the joker is not borught back she can cause her owne destruction killing terrozing the people of gotham city prazing the joker or maybe even starting a cult
the scarecrow; he could escape arkham causing fear in the city of gotham again kidnapping people taking them to run down places and constly making them see there fears.
the riddler: he could be a thug that dress‘s up good murdring people of gotham leaveing a neon painted question mark on the crime scence and riddles or maybe a mobster too or a criminal causing chaos and murdring too but in a diffrent way of tthe joker
posin ivy: kinda hard to but realistic in osme but this would be the hardist maybe some fertilizer she uses one dau she figures out she can make them do her ocntrolls and turns to a eco terroist destroying ohmes and people planting trees trying to make gotham a eco fridenly world killing condo owners and busnise men ect.} people who destroy lots and stuff
so those are my ideas
I would like to see Bjork play Harley Quinn, i know no has probably suggested her but i think Bjork would play a perfect Harley Quinn. I think Brad Dourif *the guy who did the voice of chucky from child’s play* would play good part as the Black Mask. Jack Black would be funny as The Penguin.
The riddler would be the perfect follow up to the joker. Just as batman has the city back in order this crazy guy leaving clues behind to stirr things up again would be exciting. If they decide to choose the riddler what do you think about Micheal Shannon playing the role. He was great in Revolutionary Road as the the guy who was so smart it drove him crazy. He would also have done well as The joker but not as good as Heath Ledger (God rest is soul). Also team the riddler up with catwoman. Since bruce wayne is getting over rachel dawes this new women in town could spark a flame with batman and yet again leave batman to make a choice between saving her life or letting her go. Megan fox would be perfect for this part.
What’s to say there couldn’t be 2 female villains…I say Harley Quinn played by Pauley Perrette from NCIS and Talia Al Ghul played by Catherine Zeta Jones. What I see for the movie is Batman has been gone for a few yrs and someone is committing crimes that look like those the Joker would pull off but we know he is dead. Turns out it is his girlfriend Harley Quinn (forget the whole being a Dr. at Arkham idea..sorry purists)and the reason she is doing this is because she wants to bring Batman out in the open to kill him, but when she sees Bruce in public she falls for him.
At the same time someone is trying to take over Wayne Enterprises, that someone is Talia as payback for Bruce causing her father’s death, but after seeing Bruce as Batman, Talia falls for Batman, and in a weird twist protects Batman/Bruce when Harley tries to kill him.
In the climactic scene Harley shoots Batman/Bruce wounding him and both women run to him for obvious reasons and see as Batman is taking off his mask causing both women to need to be taken to Arkham.
So that’s my idea please comment
THE RIDDLER
Personally I like the idea of The Riddler, and him being a big name I think the studio would push this character through. I’d have him as a detective either working with the police or privately, who has an obsessive and blinding sense of justice. He wants to catch Batman more than anything else but becomes more and more interested in him and trying to figure him out. He could interview previous characters who have been locked in Arkham on their experiences with Batman, including Scarecrow and maybe even Two-Face who has been locked up in secret to shield the public from what he really became (not The Joker though. He shouldn’t be recast because no one could play him like Heath Ledger did.) He orcheastrates crimes and traps, in secret, and observes the outcome of Batman’s actions before finally setting a final trap to capture Batman and bring him in. He would frequently clash with Gordon over their differing approaches towards Batman, with The Riddler believing Gordon to be too soft.
ACTOR — Daniel Day Lewis
CATWOMAN
With Rachel dead the film is going to need a love interest. Catwoman is a small time thief who is hired by The Riddler to commit a crime and reveal more of Batman’s behaviour. When Batman arrives he attempts to catch her but she evades him and proves to be a much more talented thief than she first appeared. With the money she recieves from the Riddler she goes rogue, commiting more and more elaborate crimes. Through these crimes she meets Batman more and more and begins too fall for him. In the end she has to make a choice (similar to Batman,s Harvey or Rachel choice in the Dark Knight) to warn and save Batman from The Riddlers final trap or to escape and fend for herself. She chooses her own needs over Batman’s leading to the final confrotation between Batman and The Riddler.
ACTRESS — Eva Green (Brittany Murphy might have been good but unfortunately we’ll never know)
BLACK MASK
With neither The Riddler or Catwoman being obviously defined goody baddy characters this character would serve as the person which the audience could pin the bad guy label on. Someone above me mentioned the idea of Maroni taking on this persona after the crash in the Dark Knight, which leaves him with a disfigured face. With Harvey Dent seemingly dead and Batman under close scrutiny The Black Mask is free to regain power and to rebuild the mob element in the city. I’m not sure how his grudge with Bruce Wayne could be worked in, and I would have him killed off three quarters of the way through so the story can focus more on The Riddler character.
ACTOR — Eric Roberts
Harley Quinn could be in the film but nothing more than a bit part character. She could be the leader of one of many Joker copycat gangs who have become common since the events of the Dark Knight.
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alright, since Joker is behind bars, we should have Doctor Harleen Quinnzel turn into Harley quinn after visiting in Arkham.[i dont care who plays her].……[she better be hot]so shes all out doing crime crap. How about Harley plans out some kind of secret plan. Batman finds out that he has to go in the sewer under Arkham and get something or whatever, Then he runs into killer croc, they fight he gets whatever and leaves. The riddler should pair up with the cops play as edward nigma.….…and harley find riddler they get into this fight about killing the bat, Harley shoots the riddler dead/alive [whichever one will make the movie more interesting] then harley and batman fight or something
Jen connelly is the actress that i have a huge crush. here eyes are really very pretty *~,